Repost: Crash when running from IDE.

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Rob

2007-09-25 14:08:51 UTC

I marked this as fixed, but it was not. It turns out that about 1 out 10
times it will run from the IDE.

I can create a new project and hit run and get this error.

If there is a better group to post this to, please let me know.

below is the original message:

On one of my computers (the one that just updated to Upgrade 3 of D2007)
gets an error when I start the program in the IDE. The program works fine if
you run the executable that is built outside of the IDE.

The error happens before the first line of code in the .dproj file:

[Window Title]
Microsoft Windows

[Main Instruction]
XXXX.exe has stopped working

[Content]
A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will
close the program and notify you if a solution is available.

[Close program]

Thanks,
Rob

Erik van Putten

2007-09-27 10:19:53 UTC

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Hi, I have exactly the same problem.

I upgraded two machines both running Vista.
I did not get the 3rd party components to work any more so on both machines
I did a full deinstallation of all components and the 3rd party components.
I wiped all the program data and codegear directories and did a full
reinstall.
I restarted Delphi, went through the update 3 process, reinstalled all the
3rd party components.

On both machines I can compile without a hitch, the resulting executable can
run fine on both.
Except on one machine running it from the IDE gets the immediate stopped
working error and on the other it runs fine.
(Indeed even with a brand new project without any changes)

Note : if I turn off the integrated debugger everything works fine.....

Any hints would be helpfull.
Erik.

Post by Rob
I marked this as fixed, but it was not. It turns out that about 1 out 10
times it will run from the IDE.
I can create a new project and hit run and get this error.
If there is a better group to post this to, please let me know.
On one of my computers (the one that just updated to Upgrade 3 of D2007)
gets an error when I start the program in the IDE. The program works fine if
you run the executable that is built outside of the IDE.
[Window Title]
Microsoft Windows
[Main Instruction]
XXXX.exe has stopped working
[Content]
A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will
close the program and notify you if a solution is available.
[Close program]
Thanks,
Rob

Rob

2007-09-27 13:30:23 UTC

Permalink

To be honest I am more hopeful, now that at least one more person is having
the EXACT same error as me. I will let you know if I find out anything.

Thanks for the tip about integrated debugging. I ran the executable from a
windows explorer screen, your method is better; still can't debug properly,
but better.

I would like to know if rolling back to update 2 would solve this problem?
And if so, how is that done?

-Rob

Post by Erik van Putten
Hi, I have exactly the same problem.
I upgraded two machines both running Vista.
I did not get the 3rd party components to work any more so on both
machines I did a full deinstallation of all components and the 3rd party
components.
I wiped all the program data and codegear directories and did a full
reinstall.
I restarted Delphi, went through the update 3 process, reinstalled all the
3rd party components.
On both machines I can compile without a hitch, the resulting executable
can run fine on both.
Except on one machine running it from the IDE gets the immediate stopped
working error and on the other it runs fine.
(Indeed even with a brand new project without any changes)
Note : if I turn off the integrated debugger everything works fine.....
Any hints would be helpfull.
Erik.

Erik van Putten

2007-09-30 15:06:18 UTC

Permalink

I've found the culprit.........
Delphi 2007 update 3 does not like Logitech Quickcam software....
If you remove the Logitech software you can a program run from IDE without a
hitch again.

(Note : this is only the Quickcam software not the mouse or remote
controller software from Logitech)

Rob can you confirm ?

Erik.

Post by Rob
To be honest I am more hopeful, now that at least one more person is
having the EXACT same error as me. I will let you know if I find out
anything.
Thanks for the tip about integrated debugging. I ran the executable from
a windows explorer screen, your method is better; still can't debug
properly, but better.
I would like to know if rolling back to update 2 would solve this problem?
And if so, how is that done?
-Rob

Post by Erik van Putten
Hi, I have exactly the same problem.
I upgraded two machines both running Vista.
I did not get the 3rd party components to work any more so on both
machines I did a full deinstallation of all components and the 3rd party
components.
I wiped all the program data and codegear directories and did a full
reinstall.
I restarted Delphi, went through the update 3 process, reinstalled all
the 3rd party components.
On both machines I can compile without a hitch, the resulting executable
can run fine on both.
Except on one machine running it from the IDE gets the immediate stopped
working error and on the other it runs fine.
(Indeed even with a brand new project without any changes)
Note : if I turn off the integrated debugger everything works fine.....
Any hints would be helpfull.
Erik.

Liz

2007-09-30 19:32:16 UTC

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Post by Erik van Putten
I've found the culprit.........
Delphi 2007 update 3 does not like Logitech Quickcam software....
If you remove the Logitech software you can a program run from IDE
without a hitch again.
(Note : this is only the Quickcam software not the mouse or remote
controller software from Logitech)
Rob can you confirm ?

I have a logitec camera, and I know I get crashes, but Id rather not
have to uninstall it all to find out......

--
Liz the Brit
Delphi things I have released: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk/DelphiThings

Rob

2007-09-30 19:32:39 UTC

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Yes, I have Logitech Quickcam software. I just removed it and now it looks
like I can step through a program.

How did you figure this out??

Thanks so much,
Rob

Post by Erik van Putten
I've found the culprit.........
Delphi 2007 update 3 does not like Logitech Quickcam software....
If you remove the Logitech software you can a program run from IDE without
a hitch again.
(Note : this is only the Quickcam software not the mouse or remote
controller software from Logitech)
Rob can you confirm ?
Erik.

Post by Erik van Putten
Hi, I have exactly the same problem.
I upgraded two machines both running Vista.
I did not get the 3rd party components to work any more so on both
machines I did a full deinstallation of all components and the 3rd party
components.
I wiped all the program data and codegear directories and did a full
reinstall.
I restarted Delphi, went through the update 3 process, reinstalled all
the 3rd party components.
On both machines I can compile without a hitch, the resulting executable
can run fine on both.
Except on one machine running it from the IDE gets the immediate stopped
working error and on the other it runs fine.
(Indeed even with a brand new project without any changes)
Note : if I turn off the integrated debugger everything works fine.....
Any hints would be helpfull.
Erik.

Post by Rob
I marked this as fixed, but it was not. It turns out that about 1 out
10 times it will run from the IDE.
I can create a new project and hit run and get this error.
If there is a better group to post this to, please let me know.
On one of my computers (the one that just updated to Upgrade 3 of D2007)
gets an error when I start the program in the IDE. The program works fine if
you run the executable that is built outside of the IDE.
[Window Title]
Microsoft Windows
[Main Instruction]
XXXX.exe has stopped working
[Content]
A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will
close the program and notify you if a solution is available.
[Close program]
Thanks,
Rob

Erik van Putten

2007-10-01 07:56:44 UTC

Permalink

'Luckily' I have 2 machines (a desktop and a laptop) that I use for
programming.
(I sync them so I can continue programming when I'm not in the office)

One machine crashed, the other one didn't with running programs from the
IDE (both running Vista)
I wondered what the difference was and went through all the installed
programs, taking into thought that it would be a common program as Rob had
the same problem.
I removed the ones I thought could make a difference.
I started (YES!) with Logitech software because the SETPOINT software for
the mouse already scr*wed me over once before with not updating screens
while the mouse cursor was on a form.
That was not it, but the next step was removing the QuickCam drivers and
that did it...
2nd time Logitech software and Delphi hate each other.

Liz this problem only fixes the issue that you can not run programs straight
from the IDE.
If you have that problem I really would remove the QuickCam software, if
it's intermittent other problems with crashes it's not Logitech.

Erik.

Post by Rob
Yes, I have Logitech Quickcam software. I just removed it and now it looks
like I can step through a program.
How did you figure this out??
Thanks so much,
Rob

Post by Rob
To be honest I am more hopeful, now that at least one more person is
having the EXACT same error as me. I will let you know if I find out
anything.
Thanks for the tip about integrated debugging. I ran the executable
from a windows explorer screen, your method is better; still can't debug
properly, but better.
I would like to know if rolling back to update 2 would solve this
problem? And if so, how is that done?
-Rob

Post by Erik van Putten
Hi, I have exactly the same problem.
I upgraded two machines both running Vista.
I did not get the 3rd party components to work any more so on both
machines I did a full deinstallation of all components and the 3rd
party components.
I wiped all the program data and codegear directories and did a full
reinstall.
I restarted Delphi, went through the update 3 process, reinstalled all
the 3rd party components.
On both machines I can compile without a hitch, the resulting
executable can run fine on both.
Except on one machine running it from the IDE gets the immediate
stopped working error and on the other it runs fine.
(Indeed even with a brand new project without any changes)
Note : if I turn off the integrated debugger everything works fine.....
Any hints would be helpfull.
Erik.

Post by Rob
I marked this as fixed, but it was not. It turns out that about 1 out
10 times it will run from the IDE.
I can create a new project and hit run and get this error.
If there is a better group to post this to, please let me know.
On one of my computers (the one that just updated to Upgrade 3 of D2007)
gets an error when I start the program in the IDE. The program works fine if
you run the executable that is built outside of the IDE.
[Window Title]
Microsoft Windows
[Main Instruction]
XXXX.exe has stopped working
[Content]
A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will
close the program and notify you if a solution is available.
[Close program]
Thanks,
Rob

Rob

2007-10-01 15:11:54 UTC

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Once again, thanks.

I'm not sure it won't fix Liz's problem. I not only could not run from the
debugger, but was having a lot of crashing from within the IDE. Now that I
removed QuickCam from my computer, not only can I run from the IDE, but it
seems more stable to me.

My daughter is not happy, she likes to play with the web cam. I wonder if
CodeGear will look in to this? I would also think there would be more than
just us that are having this problem. And now that I think about it, how
can Liz use the debugger with her QuickCam installed?

-Rob

Post by Erik van Putten
'Luckily' I have 2 machines (a desktop and a laptop) that I use for
programming.
(I sync them so I can continue programming when I'm not in the office)
One machine crashed, the other one didn't with running programs from the
IDE (both running Vista)
I wondered what the difference was and went through all the installed
programs, taking into thought that it would be a common program as Rob had
the same problem.
I removed the ones I thought could make a difference.
I started (YES!) with Logitech software because the SETPOINT software for
the mouse already scr*wed me over once before with not updating screens
while the mouse cursor was on a form.
That was not it, but the next step was removing the QuickCam drivers and
that did it...
2nd time Logitech software and Delphi hate each other.
Liz this problem only fixes the issue that you can not run programs
straight from the IDE.
If you have that problem I really would remove the QuickCam software, if
it's intermittent other problems with crashes it's not Logitech.
Erik.

Craig Farrell

2007-10-02 20:17:10 UTC

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Hi,

Post by Erik van Putten
Delphi 2007 update 3 does not like Logitech Quickcam software....
If you remove the Logitech software you can a program run from IDE
without a hitch again.
(Note : this is only the Quickcam software not the mouse or remote
controller software from Logitech)

Do you happen to know the problem version?
Googling shows QuickCam 10.5 as a current version
but is says it is only for newer web cams.

--Craig

Erik van Putten

2007-10-02 20:27:11 UTC

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I was using the current version with Vista, version 11.0

I looked up and down version 10.5 is not downloadable anymore.

Erik.

Post by Craig Farrell
Hi

Do you happen to know the problem version?
Googling shows QuickCam 10.5 as a current version
but is says it is only for newer web cams.
--Craig

Craig Farrell

2007-10-02 21:17:04 UTC

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Hi again,

Post by Erik van Putten
I was using the current version with Vista, version 11.0

Thanks. I guess version isn't too important, the first
thing I found at random and downloaded, reproduced
the AV when under the debugger.

--Craig