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Delphi for iMac
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Hubert Anemaat
2008-02-25 09:58:45 UTC
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Hello,

I bought an iMac a few months ago due to the all the problems with
Windows (slow, modal forms hiding behind the main form, flashing icons
on the desktop, problems with HTML Help, DHTMLEd.ocx and virtual USB
printer port, etc...).

What a difference with an iMac !
But I miss Delphi on this system.

Are there any plans to develop Delphi/Kylix for iMac and Linux ?

Hubert Anemaat
Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
2008-02-25 20:36:04 UTC
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Post by Hubert Anemaat
Are there any plans to develop Delphi/Kylix for iMac and Linux ?
Kylix is Delphi for Linux, but it is no longer being developed. There are
no plans for supporting Mac anytime soon. You can use FreeFascal/Lazarus
(http://www.freepascal.org) for Mac, though.


Gambit
Hubert Anemaat
2008-02-29 07:28:47 UTC
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Hello Remi,

It is a pity that Delphi is narrowed to Windows ! The Mac is so much
faster and easier to use, especially for my clients.

FreePascal/Lazarus is not easy to install on a Mac. This software has no
installation program, so the user has to install everything manually and
missing 3rd party software has to be downloaded and installed seperately.
NetBeans is a better solution: installed in 2 minutes and it looks like
Delphi 2007 except for the programming language of course.

Hubert
Post by Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
Post by Hubert Anemaat
Are there any plans to develop Delphi/Kylix for iMac and Linux ?
Kylix is Delphi for Linux, but it is no longer being developed. There are
no plans for supporting Mac anytime soon. You can use FreeFascal/Lazarus
(http://www.freepascal.org) for Mac, though.
Gambit
Ivan Levashew
2008-03-15 10:40:29 UTC
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Post by Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
Kylix is Delphi for Linux, but it is no longer being developed. There are
no plans for supporting Mac anytime soon. You can use FreeFascal/Lazarus
(http://www.freepascal.org) for Mac, though.
I wonder why Delphi users recommend FPC for non-Windows? There's
something much better called Ada 2005.

Though neither FPC nor GNAT is easy to use on Mac OS X. Not so much
development effort.
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John Herbster
2008-03-02 03:25:32 UTC
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I bought an iMac a few months ago ... Are there any
plans to develop Delphi/Kylix for iMac and Linux ?
Many years ago, I heard Philip Khan mention at a talk to
Houston HALPC group, that Borland was looking into
making a Delphi for the Mac. <g>
--JohnH
Hubert Anemaat
2008-03-13 09:14:04 UTC
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Hello John,

I see the last year that a lot of people are moving from Windows XP to
Leopard. I hope that CodeGear will follow this move too, now that Vista
SP1 has failed.

Hubert
Post by John Herbster
I bought an iMac a few months ago ... Are there any
plans to develop Delphi/Kylix for iMac and Linux ?
Many years ago, I heard Philip Khan mention at a talk to
Houston HALPC group, that Borland was looking into
making a Delphi for the Mac. <g>
--JohnH
Tiedo Kruisselbrink
2008-03-14 10:06:23 UTC
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..., now that Vista SP1 has failed.
Has it? What have I missed?

Tiedo
Ivan Levashew
2008-03-15 10:35:53 UTC
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Post by Hubert Anemaat
What a difference with an iMac !
But I miss Delphi on this system.
You should take a closer look on XCode&Interface Builder. They are
somewhat superior to what I saw in Delphi. And, personally, I had an
impression that Objective-C is like Delphi but with begin-end replaced
with {-}. Class objects, class methods, properties, protocols
(interfaces) -- it is much closer to Delphi than to C++.
Post by Hubert Anemaat
Are there any plans to develop Delphi/Kylix for iMac and Linux ?
I think it's not a big issue. I heard rumors that Apple is about to
unveil their partially ported Cocoa runtime to Windows. That's right,
unveil, because they are already porting it, in runtime. Even on
Windows, chances are good that you'll prefer Cocoa+Obj-C instead of
Delphi. Look here:

http://rsdn.ru/Forum/Message.aspx?mid=2831684&only=1

Although my post was in Russian, most quotes are English. Just follow
links I maid.
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Ivan Levashew
2008-03-15 10:42:21 UTC
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Post by Ivan Levashew
unveil, because they are already porting it, in runtime. Even on
* unveil, because they are already porting it, in Safari. Even on
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Alchemist
2008-03-20 00:14:10 UTC
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Post by Hubert Anemaat
Hello,
I bought an iMac a few months ago due to the all the problems with Windows
(slow, modal forms hiding behind the main form, flashing icons on the
desktop, problems with HTML Help, DHTMLEd.ocx and virtual USB printer
port, etc...).
What a difference with an iMac !
But I miss Delphi on this system.
Are there any plans to develop Delphi/Kylix for iMac and Linux ?
Borland/Codegear has kinda abandoned the cross platform idea... right now i
think its on their roadmap under the 'someday' category along with .NET CF
support for pdas, phones, etc.

Personally if there was a pascal based tool that targeted CF, Mac, iPhone,
Win32 etc thats where I would be... and it would seem to make good
sense... the one that that Microsoft is never going to do is target non
microsoft platforms with their compilers. And Delphi for Mocca (Mac) would
be well received I think... their XCode dev tool and screen designer is
nowhere near the two way tools of delphi.

Btw... ALL leopard based macs include the XCode ObjectiveC development tools
on the leopard system disk... if you feel like playin.
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Hubert Anemaat
Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
2008-03-20 00:50:12 UTC
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Post by Alchemist
Personally if there was a pascal based tool that targeted
CF, Mac, iPhone, Win32 etc thats where I would be...
FreePascal and Lazarus (http://www.freepascal.org) supports multiple
platforms.


Gambit
Ivan Levashew
2008-04-18 19:21:27 UTC
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Post by Hubert Anemaat
Are there any plans to develop Delphi/Kylix for iMac and Linux ?
LINA (Linux emulator) is to be released. You should be able to launch
Kylix and develop native-looking applications. Kylix uses Qt AFAIK, and
LINA forwards GUI calls to the native implementation. Kylix should also
look native in LINA.

LINA is still beta. I'm getting a segfault when LINA Installer tries to
download needed binaries from the Internet.
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